Caveman Rejoice and similar songs

**Azuarc** · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 1389 Location: Philadelphia

One song I'm finding remarkably difficult for a reason that most of you probably shrug off is Caveman Rejoice. When I come to the ubiquitous RB-GY-RB pattern, my fingers simply do not want to behave. This sort of motion also gives me issues on other songs, whether it's exactly the same, or merely similar -- I managed to master the fingering in Farewell Myth, but most of the songs with a pattern like that just drive me nuts.

Any recommendations for conditioning my fingers, or anyone else have this trouble?

**dspoonrt** · Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 2449 Location: Columbus, OH

If sliding your fingers isn't working, I suggest doing what JHetfield has suggested in many topics such as this one. Try "snapping" your fingers down on each chord to make sure you get each one. It's really amazing what a concentrated effort will do for your score. I do a mix between a slide and a snap and I get the chords 98% of the time.

As for other songs like it, I also have extreme trouble with the transitions of GY RB YO GY GR GY in No One Knows and even the GY RB YO chords in the long parts in COTC. Can't really help ya there, but I'd also like to know how some people get those every time.
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**Huwonk** · Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2432 Location: Marysville, Ohio

I find the most important thing on Caveman Rejoice is to prepare early for the RB GY RB part. That has helped my accuracy immensely.
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**rabies** · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject:

are you trying to play it by using fingers 1 and 3 for the GY chords and then 2 and 4 for the RB chords?

If so..that will be very difficult. my suggestion would be as dspoonrt suggests...play the whole riff using fingers 1 and 3..and just slide up and down the neck as you would on a real guitar. Then the riff is easy.

**Cliff** · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 3002 Location: Springfield, IL

**buMf00d** · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 863 Location: Netherlands

i used to have trouble doing this, but now it's just automatic really, am not having too much trouble with these chord transitions i just try to keep my hand in the same position and slide my finger over the buttons.

**Azuarc** · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 1389 Location: Philadelphia

I've tried both sliding and "snapping"...snapping, if I interpret it correctly, was what got me through Farewell Myth, but it isn't helping here. However, I haven't been able to slide this successfully. Sliding one finger is one thing, but sliding two is another where the GH controller is concerned. If I was sliding lengthwise along a real guitar string, that would be a different issue, but slapping down different buttons that run (sorta) orthogonal doesn't seem to work with sliding chords for me. =(

Huwonk - what do you mean by prepare early? I know when it's coming, so it's not like it's catching me off-guard.

**random** · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 59

I play this with fingers 1 and 3, and move. I don't slide, but I'm not sure if I'd call it snapping, either. What helped me (and maybe what Huwonk means by prepare early) is to fret the chords a bit early, but strum them right on time (or even late).

It's hard at first to separate the strum timing from the fret timing, but I found I was able to start thinking "early" without making my strum any earlier. If anything, make the strum later, as there's a fair amount of slop allowed as long as it's fretted correctly before strumming. Sometimes, I practice thinking "wait til I feel the chord" before strumming, which has also helped in many cases.

I feel like the natural reaction to missing one of these chords is to think you were late, and strum it earlier next time, which probably just makes it worse. Now I often get results by strumming slower than seems right, just so I know my fret hand can get in position on time. These are just ideas that helped me, hopefully one of them will click with you.

**upchuck55** · Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 9

lift off of the pointer finger note also. This will help your mind to separate the chords as completely different actions.

**HylianHero** · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 4673 Location: Santa Cruz, CA

I always do what JHetfield said to do and "snap". After the chord, bring your fingers up, move them a fret over, and put them down.

It sounds simple and it sounds like it doesn't help, but trust me. It helps a LOT.
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**Huwonk** · Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2432 Location: Marysville, Ohio

**ES942** · Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 3445 Location: Snalbans

this was my problem with psychobilly freakout.

try switching form RB to YO in quarter notes repeatedly at 216 bpm (close to it)

**Azuarc** · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 1389 Location: Philadelphia

**ES942** · Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 3445 Location: Snalbans

i wasn't smart enough to do both with 1 + 3 at the time. i kept trying to do 1 + 3 and 2 + 4, but it didn't work.

**JHetfield0816** · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2230 Location: New Jersey