Drum Song Tiers - Updated 11/04/08

**Briane** · Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 507

Disc Songs
Unranked (can't remember, help?)
* Stuck In The Sound - “Toy Boy”

T1
* Airbourne - “Too Much Too Young”
* Beastie Boys - “No Sleep Till Brooklyn”
* Bon Jovi - “Livin’ On A Prayer”
* Creedence Clearwater Revival - “Up Around The Bend”
* Kent - “Vinternoll2”
* Lenny Kravitz - “Are You Gonna Go My Way”
* Linkin Park - “What I've Done”
* Lynyrd Skynyrd - “Sweet Home Alabama (Live)”
* Modest Mouse - “Float On”
* Nirvana - “About a Girl (Unplugged)”
* R.E.M. - “The One I Love”
* Smashing Pumpkins - “Today”
* Steve Miller Band - “The Joker”
* Survivor - “Eye of the Tiger”
* The Eagles - “Hotel California”
* The Enemy - “Aggro”
* Wings - “Band on the Run”

T2
* At The Drive-In - “One Armed Scissor”
* Beatsteaks - “Hail to the Freaks”
* Billy Idol - “Rebel Yell”
* Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - “Weapon of Choice”
* Dinosaur Jr. - “Feel The Pain”
* Filter - “Hey Man, Nice Shot”
* Jane's Addiction - “Mountain Song”
* Jimmy Eat World - “The Middle”
* Michael Jackson - “Beat It”
* No Doubt - “Spiderwebs”
* Oasis - “Some Might Say”
* Ozzy Osbourne - “Mr. Crowley”
* Sex Pistols - “Pretty Vacant”
* Silversun Pickups - “Lazy Eye”
* Steely Dan - “Do It Again”
* The Answer - “Never Too Late”
* Tokio Hotel - “Monsoon”

T3
* 30 Seconds To Mars - “The Kill”
* 311 - “Beautiful Disaster”
* Anouk - “Good God”
* Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - “Hollywood Nights”
* Blondie - “One Way or Another”
* Coldplay - “Shiver”
* Fleetwood Mac - “Go Your Own Way”
* Joe Satriani - “Satch Boogie”
* Korn - “Freak On A Leash”
* Lacuna Coil - “Our Truth”
* Los Lobos - “La Bamba”
* Lost Prophets - “Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)”
* Negramaro - “Nuvole e Lenzuola”
* Pat Benatar - “Heartbreaker”
* Radio Futura - “Escuela De Calor”
* Rise Against - “Re-Education Through Labor”
* Sting - “Demolition Man (Live)”
* Sublime - “Santeria”
* Trust - “Antisocial”
* Willie Nelson - “On The Road Again”

T4
* Black Label Society - “Stillborn”
* Hush Puppies - “You're Gonna Say Yeah!”
* Jimi Hendrix - “The Wind Cries Mary”
* Mars Volta - “L'Via L'Viaquez”
* MC5’s Wayne Kramer - “Kick Out The Jams”
* Motörhead - “Overkill”
* NOFX - “Soul Doubt”
* Ozzy Osbourne - “Crazy Train”
* Paramore - “Misery Business”
* Ted Nugent - “Stranglehold”
* The Cult - “Love Removal Machine”
* The Guess Who - “American Woman”
* The Living End - “Prisoner of Society”
* The Stone Roses - “Love Spreads”
* Tool - “Parabola”
* The Doors - “Love Me Two Times”

T5
* blink-182 - “Dammit”
* Bullet For My Valentine - “Scream Aim Fire”
* Dream Theater - “Pull Me Under”
* Interpol - “Obstacle 1”
* Jimi Hendrix - “Purple Haze (Live)”
* Metallica - “Trapped Under Ice”
* System of a Down - “B.Y.O.B.”
* The Allman Brothers Band - “Ramblin' Man”
* Tool - “Schism”
* Tool - “Vicarious”
* Van Halen - “Hot For Teacher”

T6
* Foo Fighters - “Everlong”
* Muse - “Assassin”

T7
Nothing yet

DLC

Unassigned:
*Metallica - The End of the Line

T1

T2

T3

T4
*Metallica - All Nightmare Long
*Metallica - Cyanide

T5
*Metallica - Broken Beat and Scarred
*Metallica - That Was Just Your Life
*Metallica - The Judas Kiss
*Metallica - Suicide and Redemption

T6
*Metallica - The Day that Never Comes
*Metallica - Unforgiven III
*Metallica - My Apocalypse

T7

Background/Notes:
I'm trying to compile a relatively accurate tiering of the drum charts, more for informative purposes than anything else as the game doesn't do this for us.

I've made a rough draft so far, but a few things to note:

1) I've only played most of these once (watched youtube vids to try and remember)
2) People are good/bad at different things/beats
3) Opinions are like ........ everyone has one and I'm not trying to make a conclusive list
4) Only applies to expert, but probably translates to Hard as well
5) Tiers 1-3 are sort of... well not a lot of effort there at all as most of it could just be lumped into "easy"
6) Also tiers are sorted alphabetically, sorting by song is a bit extreme, unless we wanted to sort T6 to figure out what the actual hardest song is
7) 6 tiers seemed like enough, I'd probably add a 7th for consistency with RB2 if stuff like Good Mourning, Visions or Blinded by Fear made it's way over, but as of now I don't feel any of the on disk stuff warrants that Evil Smiley icon from RB (Assassin is probably closest)

I can add DLC as it becomes available and people update this thread. I don't have any DLC yet and probably won't get much.
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That picture is so full of win that the god of win doesnt crap out stuff with the level of win that that has.

**AdamTL7** · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 430

Uhm, WHOA, nice.

I'll let you know how I feel about these when I finish the drum career.
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**hydrapower** · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1708 Location: Rochester, MN

I'm in progress in the Expert career so I don't have a lot of feedback just yet, other than to say I'm not sure Muse should be above Tool.

I can comment on the Hard career (not that I imagine many people care =P) and say that the final tier would be something like Demolition Man, Soul Doubt, Trapped Under Ice, Vicarious, Never Too Late, Assassin, and Pretty Vacant. I'm just going off my note % on my spreadsheet here. Demolition Man was actually my last 5-star because they take out every 4th bass pedal, meaning you have to be thinking "1-2-3-rest" all the time in addition to doing complicated yellow patterns and cross-pad rolls.

Now, I should say that by last 5-star I mean it took me 2 tries instead of 1.

But I think that tier makes sense for someone who is just progressing through Hard with no prior experience (I also play Expert, though I'm not that great at it).
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**RustyWaffle** · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 796

no way in hell hot for teacher is third to last, that should be last tier for sure.
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**Nubnut** · Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 2078 Location: Denver, CO

Personally I'd put both Pull Me Under and Trapped Under Ice ahead of B.Y.O.B (not technically last tier but ahead of it nonetheless).

Aside from that, holy crap nice work on it.
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**Briane** · Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 507

Obstacle 1, I can't get my brain around that part at 2:45 that is a 30 second snare/bass/crash part, it feels like a mini-foreplay (which I always sucked at and still do), but yeah outside of that the song isn't hard. Bumped it down a notch cause this is probably just me being bad and not taking time to learn that part (haven't had to take anything on disc in GHWT or RB2 into practice, so there's something here that just isn't clicking for me). I'm predicting a lot of people failing at that part?

Bumped up Hot for Teacher a tier.

Created a T7 for stuff that is actually "impossbile". I dont' think anything on disc earns that title yet.

Not sure about moving BYOB down? I failed that song about 8 times in a row, at the same part (where the F are you "blast") just from losing tempo. It's possible to fail out from a full meter in less than 1 second which is pretty incredible, I think a lot of people will struggle to pass this once or consistently? Dream Theater and Metallica were both easy sightreads for me, BYOB I hadn't played in RB and owned my face until I found the beat in the blast, but again, it's all personal strengths/weaknesses.

Any help with the unassigned tracks?
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**hydrapower** · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1708 Location: Rochester, MN

Up Around the Bend is Tier 1, for sure. Easy song.
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**tordana** · Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 91

Personally, I'd bump Trapped Under Ice UP a tier, that song is insane. SO MUCH BASS DRUM. Maybe that's just me and my terrible foot chops though.

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**angelslayerp** · Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 111

so i finished through the drum career and this seems to be pretty right. assassin is definetly the hardest song everything else is pretty easy. obstacle 1 is that hard honestly it should be 4 tier or at the bottom of 5 tier other than that it was awesome

**hydrapower** · Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1708 Location: Rochester, MN

Additional feedback on the unranked songs:

Hollywood Nights - probably Tier 4, long song at breezy tempo with 3 bass hits per measure and the pattern of yellows changes up a lot and each red is a double-hit rather than a single.

Aggro - probably Tier 2, has that swing feel to it but nothing particularly hard (you can one-hand the clusters of seven greens).

Pretty Vacant - probably Tier 3 - mid-tempo punk song with lots of bass but not a very hard song overall.

Haven't played the other two just yet.

Also I think Spiderwebs oughta be moved down to 2, it's pretty easy overall - I only missed two notes first run.

Edit: Maybe switch Spiderwebs with The Kill, which I think is harder than 2. The main pattern has offbeat stuff in it and the chorus when he starts screaming has a bunch more offbeat stuff including some double-bass hits.
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**RonBurgvndy** · Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 235 Location: St. Louis, MO

I'd put * Jimi Hendrix - “Purple Haze (Live)” on a higher tier.
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