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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: Beat question (my apocalypse). |
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I've been playing for some time now, but there's still a beat I can't play, and it's something like this:
...k...kk
Where 'k' is the bass drum kick.
Like in My Apocalyplse, it's a really fast beat and I can't do it at all.
It makes so much more sense that the kick is after the yellow stroke and not before like TtFaF or Raining blood. I manage to play those beats, but when I try the other, I eventually start kicking after the yellow stroke.
Any tips on this beat? |
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Mike65707
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 1477 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: |
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You'll want to ignore the notes other than the kicks..I'll explain.
The yellow and the reds are keeping a simple pattern. If you can get your hands to hit them without thinking about them, you can focus most of your thought on hitting those kicks.
Really, it's just a matter of practice. _________________
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Ontwikseltsaar
Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 1586 Location: Leiden, The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:37 am Post subject: |
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You get the beat down
and there you go _________________
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B-Fuzz
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Northern Minnestota (up on the tip :P)
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Ontwikseltsaar wrote: | You get the beat down
and there you go | As dry of an answer as this is, he's basically right. I remember when I used to not be able to pass this, but now I can consistently 5* it, and I think I may be able to FC it. It's just a matter of a lot of practice, and you'll eventually get it down. As Mike said, it's also very important to focus on the kicks and hit them on time. _________________
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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, well the thing is...I mastered the basic pattern which is (Yk), (YR), (Yk), (YR). And nowadays, I play it pretty solid at any speed, however, it seems that my right foot became programmed to kick at the same time as yellows.
When I started attempting the other pattern, at a slower speed I use one foot to play the double kick, but at something like TtFaF I must use both. Just a tap with the left foot after the right one hits the yellow...
So my right foot is stuck with yellows and I always start a double kick with it...
In this song I don't think it will work.
And if I just ignore the cymbals and snare I eventually start messing it up by delaying or speeding the beat.
I guess I just have to spend some time on practice starting slow. |
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CoalfieldRocker
Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 316 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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hmm well the best thing to do is get yourself used to starting that LR with your feet, so your right foot still hits on top of the note. The easiest way for me to do this was play Shortest Straw (the old one on GH:M) there are a lot of double kicks with no sticking at all on either note and you can train yourself to hit them LR, then work your way into My Apocalypse.
All nightmare long also has this pattern for a small section towards the end of the song. _________________
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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ugh, I even find myself having trouble start rolls with my left hand, and I usually only do it if it's an odd number of notes...
Not sure I can get used to LR with my feet. I might try to 1 foot it despite the insanely fast beat. |
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Warhiem
Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 1331
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I do it as right foot on the first kick, then the series of two kicks, I do right on the first and left on the second. It sounds weird and definitely odd as notes, but it works very well for me. _________________
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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'll see what I can do, what makes more sense that is...
And a few posts ago it was said to get the beat down. I know well what that means, I remember when I couldn't read the simple pattern: Yk, YR, k, Y, k, YR. Just kept guessing what rythm it was as the notes reached the strike line...
Now I can consistently hit that and a lot of other patterns without having to look at the chart, just need to know when the beat changes to something else. |
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CoalfieldRocker
Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 316 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Fla wrote: | Ugh, I even find myself having trouble start rolls with my left hand, and I usually only do it if it's an odd number of notes...
Not sure I can get used to LR with my feet. I might try to 1 foot it despite the insanely fast beat. |
i rarely ever start a roll with my left hand, always better just to end the roll with a double stroke. at least for me anyways. the only time i start left is for a roll of 3 _________________
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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Unless there is a cymbal kick after the 3 roll, or by that means, an odd number of rolls, I never start it with my left hand. |
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Marbler
Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 889
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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For Toxicity (~17 NPS red bursts), I start all but 2 of those with my left hand...
0_1_1_0_1_1_01010_1_0_1
Where 0 is left and 1 is right
I guess what I'm saying is you could learn to start rolls with your left hand, and that could make some things easier.
But on the topic of My Apocalypse, I might have read it wrong, but it looks like what you're saying is that it goes like this:
So what you could do is this:
And add in the second kick after you get that down. _________________
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Fla
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Marbler, that is what I meant, i don't know how to do bass emoticons...
And I was trying out just a while ago, and I seriously have a hard time starting rolls with my left hand...
My Apocalypse is just an example, there are other songs that have this beat, I chose this one because the whole song is pretty much made of this pattern.
I tried today starting it slow to hear what the beat sounds like. I was able to hit it on slower speeds, but when I switched to full speed I still delay the double kick after the YR like I would play it as: YR, Yk, k, YR.
It's hopeless... |
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