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habbyboy14y
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: Can you rate all game engine's from easiest to hardest? |
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So I was just wondering, how hard is each game? Like I would love to know if GH2 is harder than GH1, and if GH1 is harder than RB1 and RB2... This is how I see it.. post your own thoughts. (From Easiest to hardest)
Also, if anyone know's the legit list (factual) Then I'd really like to see it.. thank's.
HOPO System:
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: World Tour/Guitar Hero: Smash Hit's/Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero 5
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
Guitar Hero 2/GH80's
Guitar Hero 1
Rock Band/Rock Band 2
Strum Engine
Guitar Hero 3/Guitar Hero: World Tour/Guitar Hero: Smash Hit's/Guitar Hero Metallica/Guitar Hero Aerosmith/Guitar Hero5
Guitar Hero 2/GH80's
Guitar Hero 1
Rock Band/Rock Band 2 _________________
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UndeadFil13QC
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 3386 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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You're wrong with the HOPO engine. GHWT's HOPOs are much harder than GHM's and GHSH's HOPOs. I explained it a while before in a different topic but I don't feel like explaining again nor digging through hundreds of threads.
In GH1 you most likely have to strum every HOPO to make sure you hit them. Tapping them is possible, but not easy.
RB's strumming is similar to GH2's strumming. WT is also different from GH3, GHM/GHSH too.
So, the list would be:
HOPOs:
GH3
GHM/GHSH
GH5
GHA
GHWT
GH2/RB
GH1
Strumming:
GH3/GHA
GHWT
GH5
GHM/GHSH
GH2/RB
GH1
This post is based on my own opinion. Please don't say "you're wrong", I don't care, this seems right to ME. _________________
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habbyboy14y
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 154 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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UndeadFil13QC wrote: | You're wrong with the HOPO engine. GHWT's HOPOs are much harder than GHM's and GHSH's HOPOs. I explained it a while before in a different topic but I don't feel like explaining again nor digging through hundreds of threads.
In GH1 you most likely have to strum every HOPO to make sure you hit them. Tapping them is possible, but not easy.
RB's strumming is similar to GH2's strumming. WT is also different from GH3, GHM/GHSH too.
So, the list would be:
HOPOs:
GH3
GHM/GHSH
GH5
GHWT
GH2/RB
GH1
Strumming:
GH3
GHWT
GH5
GHM/GHSH
GH2/RB
GH1
This post is based on my own opinion. Please don't say "you're wrong", I don't care, this seems right to ME. |
Hmm, I have always thought RB was the hardest.. Guess not. Also, do you mind adding GHA? im just curious. _________________
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Pas26
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 3664 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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RB and GH2 have exactly the same engine, according to Harmonix.
I feel like GH:M/SH strumming is harder than GH5 since you can't double strum notes anymore. _________________
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UndeadFil13QC
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 3386 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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HOPO-wise, GHA is between GH5 and GHWT. It's under GH5 because they aren't as ridiculously easy (ex. you can hit a HOPO after the next one has crossed the line), but over GHWT because, well, these are ridiculously hard compared to any Neversoft engine.
Strumming-wise, GHA is similar to GH3.
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Pas26 wrote: | you can't double strum notes anymore. |
What does that exactly mean? Strumming twice for one note and still not break combo, or burst strumming? _________________
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Solo 2A FC Count: 39 (Best runs: many -1s, three outro chokes and two 100% overstrums!)
Side goals: GH Expert Vocals Full Series FC [4/8] | Rock Band Expert Bass Full Series FC [8/9] | COVID Vaccine & Booster 100% FC [4/4]
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habbyboy14y
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 154 Location: New York City
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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UndeadFil13QC wrote: | HOPO-wise, GHA is between GH5 and GHWT. It's under GH5 because they aren't as ridiculously easy (ex. you can hit a HOPO after the next one has crossed the line), but over GHWT because, well, these are ridiculously hard compared to any Neversoft engine.
Strumming-wise, GHA is similar to GH3.
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Pas26 wrote: | you can't double strum notes anymore. |
What does that exactly mean? Strumming twice for one note and still not break combo, or burst strumming? |
Ohh ok.. Also, I think he means double strumming HOPO's. _________________
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Mr.Scientist
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1828 Location: Quebec City, QC
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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UndeadFil13QC wrote: | EDIT:
Pas26 wrote: | you can't double strum notes anymore. |
What does that exactly mean? Strumming twice for one note and still not break combo, or burst strumming? |
I think he must be talking about strumming twice for one note and note breaking combo... like smokyprogg showed in his Welcome Home (Sanitarium) video a while back, where he strummed 4 times for 3 notes. _________________
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jdamillio
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 1041 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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undeads list is correct.
let the flaming begin. _________________
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ElementOfZero
Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 2270 Location: Lake Park, Georgia
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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switch GH5 with GHWT on both strumming and hopos and I agree with Undead.
Strumming feels much easier and HOPOs are harder for me. I've never had any problems in WT with HOPOS but i'm missing really easy ones in GH5 _________________
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GenericName
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Undead's list, except for GH3's Ho-Po placement. Even though the front end is infinite, I find the back end to feel... very small. I find it to be about this for me -
Easiest - SH/M
Easier - 3/WT
Difficult, comparatively. - Everything else.
That isn't to say that GH3 and WT have the same timing window, I just feel like the larger back-end on WT evens out the infinite front end of GH3 in terms of overall difficulty. _________________
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habbyboy14y
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 154 Location: New York City
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: |
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UndeadFil13QC wrote: | You're wrong with the HOPO engine. GHWT's HOPOs are much harder than GHM's and GHSH's HOPOs. I explained it a while before in a different topic but I don't feel like explaining again nor digging through hundreds of threads.
In GH1 you most likely have to strum every HOPO to make sure you hit them. Tapping them is possible, but not easy.
RB's strumming is similar to GH2's strumming. WT is also different from GH3, GHM/GHSH too.
So, the list would be:
HOPOs:
GH3
GHM/GHSH
GH5
GHA
GHWT
GH2/RB
GH1
Strumming:
GH3/GHA
GHWT
GH5
GHM/GHSH
GH2/RB
GH1
This post is based on my own opinion. Please don't say "you're wrong", I don't care, this seems right to ME. |
Hmm I just realized GH80's isn't on my list or yours.. I completely overlooked it.. Where would you put it? _________________
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alexhaz64
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 4483 Location: Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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80s is exactly the same as GH2, engine-wise. (although minus the hopo glitch, I'm pretty sure) _________________
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Pas26
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Mr.Scientist wrote: | UndeadFil13QC wrote: | EDIT:
Pas26 wrote: | you can't double strum notes anymore. |
What does that exactly mean? Strumming twice for one note and still not break combo, or burst strumming? |
I think he must be talking about strumming twice for one note and note breaking combo... like smokyprogg showed in his Welcome Home (Sanitarium) video a while back, where he strummed 4 times for 3 notes. |
This. It was very annoying in songs like Mercyful Fate, Welcome Home and ANL. _________________
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UndeadFil13QC
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 3386 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:42 am Post subject: |
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I did double strum notes in The Spirit Of Radio's yellow-blue strumming, so it's still doable in GH5. _________________
ULTIMATE GOAL: FC Im The One on GH: Van Halen Expert Guitar
Solo 2A FC Count: 39 (Best runs: many -1s, three outro chokes and two 100% overstrums!)
Side goals: GH Expert Vocals Full Series FC [4/8] | Rock Band Expert Bass Full Series FC [8/9] | COVID Vaccine & Booster 100% FC [4/4]
47| 64| 30| 70| 41| 86| 49| 48| 85| 46| 93| 42 ( 10| 65| 10)
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habbyboy14y
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Pas26 wrote: | RB and GH2 have exactly the same engine, according to Harmonix.
I feel like GH:M/SH strumming is harder than GH5 since you can't double strum notes anymore. |
He was talking about this video if anyone is wondering.. Smokyprogg Welcome Home (Sanitarium) glitch _________________
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